Butch Dykes

Out here, if I saw an ad that said that, I'd probably think that it was written by a guy <lol>. Just like those Craigs List ads that have photos of half-nekkid femmes. I mean, what percentage of women would post something like that?


I LOVE femmes, but I would never write "no butches" anywhere. Seems like cutting off the potential for some great women. It'd be like saying "no brunettes", just 'cause I think blondes are hot. But I think that a hot woman is hot, no matter how she IDs herself.

Congrats on your new butch inamorata, Angel!!

i think it is a regional thing... butch dykes have some space where i live to be pretty out but different regional cultures are more repressive.

> So if butch dykes are so hot, then why do all the newspaper ads specify no butch women? Or is that just a midwest thing?

I have a shirt with a whole mess of slogans on it, and one of them is:

No fats, femmes, butches, or bisexuals; I want her thin and boring.

<laugh>

Yeah, I hate those "no this, no that" comments in personals too!

Speaking as a butch womyn,
I gotta say, It's never been a choice for me.
I've always embraced my masculine side more then my feminine.
Even though I do have my femme side, the butch qualities stand out more.
I think thats the way with a lot of butch womyn.
I would look and feel ridiculous if I got femme'd out.
And there is no way in the world I would ever want to be a guy.
Personally there is no cooler spot in the world than being a womyn loving womyn.
Whether butch or femme, I feel this is the greatest role a person can find herself in during
her lifetime.
My only complaint is that the life of lesbians can be somewhat restrictive and boring.
Meaning that creativity is not exactly one of our cultures strong points.
Perhaps we stay somewhat closed to protect ourselves which is understandable,
but I would love to see more creative freedom outside the mainstream that we tend to
find ourselves in while trying to fit into to prove that were just like straight people.

this gender bending is perhaps what we needed to be able to relax our roles.
Allowing people to be a varied vision of the tried and true roles.

There are some femmes who are almost exclusively attracted to other femmes and the idea of sticking a schlong in our mouths is just revolting. I have heard some dykes say the ideal woman for them would be a female with a penis but Chris I suggest you get over your fantasies about having sex with a lesbian and try for a bisexual woman instead. Most real lesbians wouldn't give you the time of day, because you don't have the right kind of "plumbing" we want. What exactly are you, a Female to Male transexual? Did you get male genitalia sewn on? in that case forget what i was saying i don't know enough about it maybe there is a lesbian out there for you somewhere.

He, if I want the extra plumming, I would date a FtM, but heck, I prefer a pussy over a dick. The added bonus is exactly not what I so not want in my bed, be it a man or a FtM....

Dear, I have dated both FtM and MtF trannies. Nothing against trannies, but at this stage in my life I prefer a G.G.

more power to ya! Nothing worse than people fighting off the bigots and then turning around and being just that.

I'm not sure it translates completely fluidly= plumming? What women (biologically came that way) want? I like people in all their glorious bodies- whether they are ftm mtf or fbutch/femme.

I have only found that toe curling sensation with strong women-butch with a real womany totally with her own sex identiy. I know I'm butchering this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

can't we all just get along?

yeah, butches are hot! Wishin I had one to adore like yours. sssnickering.

You know, Ammre, you don't have to put away the skirts, makeup, etc., just because you're a big girl. I'm 5'11" and a size 20 myself, and no less "femme" for being able to physically dominate almost all of my partners, reach the top shelf, carry heavy things, change my own tire, or be able to field-strip a Powerbook in short order.

And the thing is, I don't see it as any kind of "fight". I'm just not sure what you mean by "masculine roles" as opposed to more like "larger person" roles. :-\

Nothing wrong with your own conclusion on the matter, of course...I'm jus' sayin', is all.

Hummm, so you tel me that I have to get rid of all my skirts because I am 5'11"? No way, they are way to much fun......

Amen, sista! Testify!

And just try being a femme into *other femmes*...oy vey. Especially in the SF Bay, the very epicenter of the Cult of the Butch™. Nothing against butches, mind you, except for how hard the fixation on them can sometimes make it to find other femme-loving femmes. :-P

Hummm, what I notice that I as a fem interested in fems are in general indeed tougher than many butch that I know. Sorry, I will build my own house in the near future.... With my own hands to be correct.... Tough is not equal to butch..... I love tough fem gals!

this is now a productive thread! Yay!

i like butches and femmes and everything in between.
I used to be more into butches. But things have shifted.

But I just read the entire thing and I must say, being a lipstick lesbian, I feel hurt. Well, not *really*, but I never knew there were so many women who love androgyny in other women. I am assuming that by "butch" you mean the wifebeater-sportsbra-wearing-baggypant-shorthaired-cutie. That describes my wifey perfectly. And I must say, I never went out thinking that I would fall inlove with "that type of girl", but when you shed your stereotypes and leave your judgements at home, magical things can happen.

I found my perfect match, and I don't think of it as a femme with a butch. It's not about our looks that makes us great together, it's the yin and the yang in our lives. I can change my own tire, kill spiders, and pump my own gas. But guess what? She loves to do that for me. I am the femme that can dominate anyone in bed and in the office. In fact, I control most everything in the household: finances, groceries, what toilet paper we buy. Then we both do the dishes and she cooks most of the time! Just like some of you in this thread, whether or not we are femme or butch shouldn't be defined by how we look or what we do. And you shouldn't rule out anyone that might make you happy just because they look a certain way or have certain body parts.