Hi and why do we feel such a need to box ourselves in?

topic posted Sun, October 22, 2006 - 10:49 AM by  the unhomed one
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Hey y'all (I'm moving to texas, so I'm practicing). Just wanted to introduce myself since I'm new. The last topic made me start wondering about that - about the boxes we push ourselves into. I don't really understand the butch/femme thing. I mean how can you be just one thing? Now I grew up in VT and am still suffering from the cultural deprivation so that's probably part of it. But I still don't get it ... If you're femme does that mean you ONLY like dressing up and 'girly' things and NO 'boyly' things? Does butch mean the opposite? Doesn't it get boring to make yourself fit into that kind of box???
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  • I can't speak for anyone else here, but I don't think so at all. I'm very much a femme, appearance-wise (what can I say? I like looking like an amazon goth princess... :-P ), but am a Network Administrator, know my way around soldering iron, screwdriver, and wrench, and even like to watch the odd football game (tho not this weekend since my team lost a heartbreaker :-( ).

    I love gadgets, abhor "chick flicks", but can still go a bit batty over a Torrid "50% off Clearance" sale.

    I'd put forward that butch/femme is going the way of most outward gender...the way of dress-up, and not of inner identity and behaviors, which are (thankfully, IMHO) becoming more unisex by the day.

    That said, it's only other women showing "femme" who seem to turn me on while the "butch" cues leave me cold...and just try getting a date when you live in the butch/andro/FTM-obsessed SF Bay and are a femme into other femmes. :-P
  • <<I'm moving to texas, so I'm practicing>>

    I'm sorry. I hope you're at least moving to Austin or Dallas (great scene up there). I escaped from a 6.5 year stint there a year and a half ago.

    As for boxes and boredom, the argument/discussion has been going on since at least the 70s. I'm getting bored of it. There's got to be more interesting discourse in the lesbian community other than the usual suspects: "Lezbo Bed Death," "Butch/Femme/Boxes," "The Bi-Sexual Question," etc. and ad nauseum.
    • Yup, Austin. Going to start a women's household there. OK, so you're right, I'm sure. But see for all the discussing does anything actually get ... figured out? I mean there must be a reason we keep talking about it all right? Jeeze, I am so cringing. LOL. I JUST finished posting a lesbo bed death post... So then, come on. You come up with another interesting topic and I promise to respond as best I can. Or ... you could just keep on being bored ...
      • Cringe not. I think the reason we all keep talking about these topics is because none of them have definite solutions or easy answers. They are complex issues because they are human issues. I'm bored of talking about them because I haven't really heard anything fresh on these topics in a long time. It's been gone over and over again, by weak and strong minds, and we're still scratching our heads.

        Here's a much more interesting topic: Getting Beth a date.

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